Pascal: I realised that it would not be safe to keep Caritas and the children in my house. I told my wife to give them provisions for some days.

Caritas: I then put my baby in my back and took the other ones beside me.

Pascal: I accompanied them through the bush, up to the main road.

Caritas: He showed us a way to reach the other hill, the highest one you see there. We took that way and we reached some other refugees. They told us to continue with them to the main road where a military truck would pick us up. I took my children up to that place.

Pascal: Fortunately they were able to get on a vehicle to Ruyigi center. I saw them going, I really felt relieved.

Caritas: It brought us to the refugee camp of Ruyigi. That is where we stayed. I am still alive with my children.

Pascal: I got into a lot of trouble when the killers heard that I saved Tutsi. They would call me an imporona meaning a member of Uprona, the Tutsi political party. They said I'm a traitor.

They killed many persons. I saw many bodies in the roads and in the rivers. But because I was hiding, I didn't saw people dying in front of me. I was afraid that they would discover I saved Tutsi. I preferred to stay home. I was afraid of being killed. You know, I was treated like a traitor. I wasn't allowed to know the secrets of the Hutu.

I lost many Tutsi friends and colleagues. They were people I worked with, neighbours and many others. Among them were Ntibanyigera and Kadogo. They were Tutsi. There were also Hutu friends I lost. Whenever I remember them I feel bad. To know a person with whom you used to share everything and one day be told that he passed away is very sad.